This week, we dive into the life and mindset of six-time world bareback riding champion Kaycee Feild. Kaycee’s journey is nothing short of legendary. His relentless pursuit of excellence, overcoming life-threatening injuries, and unwavering dedication will inspire you to tackle your own challenges. We discuss his champion mindset, life in the rodeo, and his philosophy on living a fulfilling life. Kaycee provides valuable insights into his close-knit family and the values instilled by his renowned father and shares some amusing behind-the-scenes stories (including a memorable lawnmower incident on Mother’s Day). This episode is filled with wisdom, humor, and genuine insights from one of the greatest rodeo athletes of all time. Powered by www.ehub.comConnect with us! https://linktr.ee/knowyourshipConnect with Kaycee!Kaycee’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kayceefeild/?hl=enKaycee’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Kaycee.Feild/Kaycee’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Kaycee_Feild
welcome to the know your ship podcast presented by ehub I’m your
host Frank Dolce now I I don’t know I don’t know I’m trying to get settled in
here I don’t know if I’m up to the task today this we’ll get going you’re be
like damn who is this guy I I think I know who this gu I think I know who
this guy is it’s like I’m not kidding and I’m I’m not I I’m not doing you
justice when I say this and I’m not I’m not trying to be way over the top
this for me is like having Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods thank you or Wayne
Gretzky or Eddie MKS who is a world’s greatest cyclist I mean you name Joe
Montana you name any of the greatest of alltime athletes and he’s sitting
here on our podcast casy field six-time world bearback champion best of all
time widely regarded as maybe the best Rodeo of all time that’s unbelievable
I can’t thank you enough for being here well I sure appreciate it thanks for
having me on so let me just ask you this question if you’re the best of all
time who is your favorite cowboy of all time time uh for sure my dad number
one uh just watching him grow up and then watching him through his career
what I can remember I was very small but um just the way he carried his life
after his career and the champion that he was in everyday aspect um Ty Murray
he’s a tough guy um Bobby MO is a guy that I competed against that I uh
looked up to tremendously he kind of was the guy that uh in my opinion in the
bearback riding event um kind of revolutionized preparation getting ready for
the for the for the ride more so than just push-ups and and sit-ups he it
seemed like he had a purpose that he was trading for um he wasn’t just a good
old tough Cowboy like he actually brought um some class and style to the
bearback rid and into the sport of rodeo and and uh competing against him and
understanding his uh resiliency was it was something awesome to witness yeah
he was a four-time world champion uh Rodeo road bucking horses bearback
riding which is a young man’s event for sure it’s pretty violent on the body
you feel your aches and pains and uh right you know he Rodeo till he’s 42
years old and I so I got to see him for a long time competing it was it was
awesome wow 42 what is your your actual age is what 37 actual yeah actual age
what is your Rodeo age like what is your age in Rodeo years dog years
probably I mean it’s just so hard on the body yeah and you go through so many
traumatic events and I’m sure you’ve seen that we’re going to talk about some
of your traumatic events as we go through this and and overcoming obstacles
because I think that’s an very important part of your story but let’s let’s
go back to to the beginning and and your dad Lewis people call him Louie yep
uh five time Champion right yep uh and your mom Veronica y was tell me tell me
about your mom I I think we know about your dad your dad was very well known
on the rodeo circuit yes uh but it kind of feels like your mom is the
understated glue of this family unit tell tell me a little about your mom
yeah my mom’s amazing um she was as as growing up she was our friend she
wasn’t a mom we got in trouble with uh I remember the the LDS missionaries
coming over to give her the discussion and my had my dad had won this Ram
Charger SUV thing and uh she wanted to take him for a ride and we lived in
the mountains and we went up in the mountains we mud bogging and we got stuck
and they missed the discussions the rest of the day that they’re supposed to
go and give and she came back and called the bishop and hey these guys don’t
need to be in trouble it’s my fault and as kids seeing my mom kind of have
fun with us and with the missionary like that that was that was just the
beginning of so many memories just like that and she’s very outgoing uh very
optimistic about life uh very rarely does she have a bad day um she’s just a
she and she’s very beautiful and and she’s just is beautiful on the inside
she she does a lot of service for a lot of people and she’s just uh you know
my kids 11 to 5 uh to have a grandma is is is a true blessing to have a
grandma like her and the things and the influence that she has on them is
just something awesome we as kids uh we didn’t realize how good we had it
with our mom and dad and and looking back down at our memories yeah that’s
that’s amazing T tell me what are what are some of your mom’s qualities that
you have or what are some of her qualities that you wish you had um she’s a
better Storyteller than me for sure you know I’m very straight to the point
she uh she likes to give every detail maybe even some extras yeah but she
she’s amazing she’s beautiful like I said but uh the way that she cares for
other and and um she’s always motivating she’s always uplifting people and
giving compliments and uh just what you would your your dream grandma that’s
that’s my mom you dream of someone that just your kids die to go and hang out
with in any scenario they are learning things from her about life uh Common
Sense uh how to speak to people things that are going to last throughout
their whole life and you know she does it in a very fun way and uh she’s
always taken my kids on Adventures wherever it be or you know uh her new
husband my new stepdad Brennan she uh she runs him through the ringer they’re
on an adventure every week and he I know he likes the Sundays on the couch
and watches football he doesn’t get that very often with Veronica she’s
running the wheels off that’s great that’s fantastic uh obviously your dad
well-known Rodeo Champion but that that wasn’t a it was a way of life but he
couldn’t really make a life like the the the the purses weren’t necessarily
enough to make a life so he did lots of different things while while you were
growing up yeah what are what are some of the Les lesons you learned from
your dad in that way of life um you know my dad was very successful at a
young age and won a lot of championships um but when Rodeo was over he
continued working he produced rodeos for a long time and so we would go and
we would watch him produce rodeos and he would give us jobs to do while we
were there and it didn’t seem like we were where working he made it way fun
for us um and then growing up at the house um riding Young Horses whatever we
did building fence or if we went on a hunting trip it was always it was
always just a delight he was very uh Pleasant to be around he was a prankster
he was always pulling pranks on us maybe trying to get us bucked off a young
horse um he thought it was really funny when somebody got bucked off and it
wasn’t him you know he was a a very resilient man he uh very humble probably
the most humble Champion I’ve ever met in my life uh we never talked about
his accomplishments we never talked about Rodeo um if we were at a rodeo and
his name came up yeah he would elaborate a little bit you know yeah you know
back in 83 or ’84 I was the first million dooll cowboy on the rough stock end
of the rodeo um and that was all that was said it wasn’t he would never go
into detail that it was this season and I rode this bucking horse and this
many points and I did that it was it was he was more engaged in who we are
and developing us as Champions when we were very young um you know like
mowing the lawn you mow the lawn straight and you don’t miss any any patches
and if you do you go back and you finish the job and you clean up after
yourself and and you do it with a winning attitude and that’s that’s a I mean
that’s a simple analogy of what we went through when we were growing up well
I’d like to talk about that development of this winning attitude because your
mom said you were just born with it this mindset this attitude she uses the
word tenacity Focus if you want to accomplish something you figure out how to
accomplish that as you look back can you see your childhood as this
development of the mindset in your career um yeah I can I didn’t understand
it but when I was as young as oh little league wrestling is seven eight years
old you know 50 lbs 45 lbs whatever it be um if we lost it was like hey you
you you didn’t lose you did really good what you did out there and the things
um that you were you were doing and how you came off the mat and you you were
a good Sportsman that was that was so impressive you did such a good job I’m
so proud of you um Little League football racing racing downhill mountain bikes
snowmobiles uh we had the opportunity if we dreamed it they they provided the
opportunity but we had to do it in a certain way and and they never said if
you don’t do it this way we’re not going to support you I never once did I
ever hear that out of my parents mouth but it was if if you’re going to do
this I’ll help you I I know a few things on you know how to win and the
things that you learn outside of of the discipline that you’re up against is
is going to help you even be a better comp competitor right and so that’s
when we were going to the rodeos or we were going to our competition sitting
in the truck with my mom and dad are some of my most Vivid Vivid memories of
just preparing and then what we reflected on on the way home so you have a
you have a brother and a sister are you the oldest I’m the baby you’re the
little one oh yeah and so does it how does the how does it go chronologically
so Shadrach my oldest brother he’s four years older than me he’s 40 he old
and bald wo yeah old and bald no offense listen if you go bald I mean life’s
pretty much over might check it check out yeah he’s battling it I sh I shave
this is my choice and then my little big sister she’s beautiful and she’s
probably 53 she’s two years older than me but she I call her my little sister
yeah she lives right down the road from me has four kids and our kids are
riding four-wheelers and pedal bikes back and forth with each other 24/7 but
uh my brother my sister were very close I talked to them several times every
day have some business with shad and then mackley our kids being close
together we get to spend a lot of time together yeah do your do your brother
and sister share some of these qualities that you have like the mindset your
mom described you as a dreamer like you could manifest something by dreaming
about it and thinking about it and wanting it do do you see that in your
siblings as well oh for sure shad’s very successful uh businessman he’s very
intelligent I say he got the brains my sister got the beauty and I got the
talent um but they’re I’m very proud of both of them uh Shad is an
entrepreneur he’s got stuff in the whole field he’s got a jewelry company me
and him have a cowboy hat company yeah we need to talk about that by the way
I need something to cover up this so maybe after we got something that’ll fit
perfect so we have a lot of fun with each other even as adults uh my sister
the the most amazing mom she’s an angel uh haven’t heard her say a curs word
or a bad thing about anybody uh just a a delight to be around uh very
fortunate that uh she lives right down the road and my wife from Montana gets
to have a close relationship with her and so it’s cool but they uh they’re
both winners um Shad he’s he’s more of a really thorough I want it now kind
of guy that needs to be done yesterday uh my sister she’s just happy gol
lucky whatever comes her way heck yeah I’ll do my best um but as far as uh
you know dreaming of of something and then and then really uh going after it
I think the way that uh I write my goals down and then um I try to simulate
life with rodeo with riding bucking horses I I was pretty good at riding
bucking horses and so yes pretty good the more that I live my life like
riding a bucking horse is like when I wake up in the morning and I put my
foot down just like when I’m nodding in the bucking shoot it’s it’s here and
now you have a short period of time to show your talent so get out there and
do your very best work as hard as you can because you have a limited amount
of time and so I add a lot of pressure on myself just like at a big rodeo if
I had to have a lot of points or if there was a big purse on the line that
could help me in the world standings move up or or extend my lead um you know
I’m I’m going after it as hard as I possibly can and it’s now or never you
know you you just mentioned that the way that you live your life and I I read
a little bit of stoic philosophy and there I’m going to mess this up but
maybe we can edit it out if I messed up but the stoics believe in something
called momento morai and it’s living every day to the fullest capacity
because you don’t know what’s going to happen the next day and it feels like
that’s what you’ve Incorporated in your life or or recognized in your life
and and live your life that way that’s that’s probably better I’ve recognized
that and uh it’s it’s helped me where I’m at today with being retired from
rodeo and going into business um the more that I I’m diligent about the
basics mhm it it seems like my days flow better and I and I can get more
accomplished okay so you’ve discovered it and you’ve recognized it can you
teach it can you teach others can you teach your family can you teach others
how to live that type of philosophy um if I spend enough time with them so
there for a while uh I’ll guess we got plenty of time I’ll give you the long
answer so you know when I was young and I won my first four World titles it
was fast-paced I was there was no distractions um it was me no one else was
getting on the Bucking Horse for me um I was I was tunnel visioned and it
seemed like um there wasn’t anything there for me it was I’m being a champion
I have my wife and my kids and this is life um and then I go through live uh
just like everybody else you have tribulations and and distractions and
losing my father injuries uh financial problems there there’s certain things
that that are inevitable to happen when you’re when you’re chancing things in
life when you’re when you’re trying to push yourself and and putting things
on the line you know there there is things that you’re going to learn and I
was a young man um and then coming back and and winning my fifth and my sixth
World title it was like I had a second chance a second chance in Society um I
remember like the camera guy who used to film me when I was sitting on my
mom’s lap watch my dad compete the same camera guys now videoing me compete
and he’s like come on Casey show them what they come to see you know and and
a lot of guys don’t even recognize the cameraman let alone if he’s been there
for 30 years and to recognize him and like give him a hug and and understand
that it’s there’s a lot of people that support me there’re it’s a very
humbling feeling to to feel love from a stranger it’s very um you know uh it’s
humbling but it’s a it’s a feeling that uh it’s very powerful and it’s hard
to get with anything else and so going through life and and through those 10
years I I kind of learned that you know God has a plan for me I don’t I I
can’t dictate what’s going to happen in the year I can happen or dictate
what’s going to happen today but there’s much more than just today and God
kind of you know hit me on the head as you I guess you could say and like
knock some cobwebs out and um you know going to the not that I didn’t before
but really going to the Children’s Hospitals and and being interested in in
what the parents are dealing with they’re going over overseas to see the
troops in Afghanistan and understanding that I am bringing them peace I I am
bringing them A Taste of Home my words are encouragement you know I never
understood that until I I won these last few World titles and so um to answer
the the question you know that was kind of the long answer but that’s great
you know I don’t know the proper answer but you look back on your life and
you comprehend the rush of a certain point and the value of being in the
moment and recognizing all the people that are surrounding you and being of
service to all of those people it’s you’re not in this alone yeah so and so
to to say I can teach it yeah I can teach it if I have someone around me long
enough to watch what I do M so Mason Clement a a little brother to me he he’s
uh been coming over and practicing and working out with me for several years
he’s made the NFR a few times but now and I hate to say this but now being
retired from the sport I feel like I’m even more helpful to to a young man
like him and and now he’s been over and and he’s probably having the best
year he’s ever had and but he’s never spent this much time with me when I’m
preparing and the way that I prepare for rodeo and the way that I prepared
for the National Finals Rodeo uh I can speak it all day but to to see it and
witness it in a different aspect with me in my realm I guess you could say
and and see my mindset um it it is a I guess Mason is an example of teaching
it and becoming a a a better winner there’s there’s so many nuggets of wisdom
in what you’ve just said I’d like to talk about a few of those and
specifically one story that your mom told uh after your father passed and if
I’m getting this mixed up please correct me but sounded like you’re a tough
cowboy and if you look across the world of Athletics Cowboys are considered
you maybe the top of the toughest I mean I think I would put like Cowboys
National Hockey League players in and wrestlers probably in my top three of
the toughest athletes around your dad passed and it sounded like you weren’t
giving yourself the space to grieve about that and your mom recognized this
not surprising based on what we’ve been told about your mom and gave you that
opportunity to grieve she said something to you and was that an experience
that helped lead you to this point where you are today in terms of being more
in the moment oh for sure yeah um grieving was hard for me just cuz he passed
uh I went back to the basics I was at my goals you know I I was I wasn’t lost
but uh things were definitely different more different than they’ve ever been
in my life and so I was like dang all right back to the basics here’s the
goals um I’m not there’s no distractions me you know bull crap this is this
is the job just cuz I lost my dad what do these goals go away you know do
they race and I start over next year lose a whole year and it’s like mhm no
that that me and so you know I had to figure a way out to grieve on my own
and I I it was uh my dad passed away in February of 16 and it was probably uh
December of 17 or even the the winter of 18 that was like okay dude like he’s
gone you need to let go of some stuff or whatever is going on I wrote down
some things that you know I loved having my dad here with and then I wrote
some things down that are that have benefited me now that my dad is gone and
the list just kept going and going and going and going and going and going
and going and I was like okay well you know life’s just going to be just all
right like here we go again you know yeah and so that was a that was a moment
for me and and my mom too um just words of encouragement and she seen I don’t
know I don’t feel like I stress unless I’m waiting in line at Disneyland or
something like that but or have aniet is very stressful yes but you know my
mom she she read something and it’s like hey you you’ve you’ve got to do this
for yourself and your family everybody else is is kind of taking notice like
you got to grow up a little bit and quit being so selfish there’s other
people in this world with you at this moment uh quit pushing it aside grow up
kind of deal tough love for Mom tough love for Mom she keeps she keeps
getting better every time we tell the story about her yeah you’re when you
talk to her you’re going to love her she’s she’s infectious I’ll tell you I
can’t wait I just can’t wait talking about another thing that you mentioned
the mindset being able to manifest it feels like that’s something you’ve had
from an early age and maybe you’ve just developed it over time or recognized
it over time and there’s a great story I’d love you to tell about you’re
coming back from an injury you had a broken arm you didn’t qualify for the in
NFR the previous year you have three kids you don’t have a lot of money in
the bank and you have an opportunity to to maybe turn that around with this
ride tell me take me from the point where you had the dream to the conclusion
of that yeah so it was a it was a tight a tight spot for me um it was it was
a part of of you know my career where I credit uh a lot of My Success
nowadays coming from the the mistakes that I made the the valley down at the bottom
that I was in was was a dark place I I wasn’t happy um just but it was it was
all unnecessary uh negative energy that was putting on myself it was it was
stupid uh selfish like I said but there’s this horse named Virgil and he’s
this big huge monster I mean he’s got to away 2,200 lb and big old head
that’s a horse not a cow it’s not a bull he serious a big powerful horse he’s
you know bucking people off but if you ride on it ride him your 90 points and
um I haven’t drawn him he’d probably been to the NFR three or four times he’d
been in the Calgary Stampede and I’ve never drawn him and it seems like if I
didn’t draw him the right guy got on and and beat me and I won second several
times uh so just just for for context if people aren’t familiar with Rodeo
tell me what it means to score 90 on a ride it’s awesome that’s a big score
so 50 points available uh for the horse and 50 points available for the
cowboy um the horse has to go out there and perform for you to be able to win
and I have to show up and and and put a good ride with style and control and
uh a little finesse in that ride and make it look controlled but at the same
time maybe a little bit out of control Controlled Chaos I guess you could say
yeah so when you reach 90 you’re that’s the mark like if 100 points is a
perfect ride yeah the horse comes out there’s never been a 100 Point ride in
in the beback ride and there’s been uh two 95s and 3 94s yeah and it’s the I
never got that record I I feel like uh humbly saying I have majority of the
records at the big rodeos or um season earnings or whatever it be but that
the ultimate highest scorer ever I never did get that there’s a few times I
was like man this is going to be it they say the score and I’m like 93 and
going to win a half a million bucks and I’m still thinking oh man I was that
close you that close yeah but no be back Ry it’s a it’s weird cuz it it is
Controlled Chaos yeah but yeah okay so now you’re you’re at the spot you’ve
never drawn the horse and here we go yeah so coming up I didn’t qualify for
the NFR in December um and if you don’t make the NFR in Rodeo you that there
goes all of your profit you just broke even for the year maybe can pay off
your credit card bills um so didn’t make the NFR money tie um going into the
rodeos in March and you go through a qualifier and the old Stockyards down in
Fort Worth and it’s probably my least favorite place to ride is Dungy it
stinks the energy in the building just different and I’m like yeah but the
ultimate if you qualify through that road you go to the Dallas Cowboys
Stadium to the rodeo called the American and if you go through the qualifying
system you’re eligible to win a million dollars rather than just 100,000 um
end up going to the to making it to the semifinals I had a horse called all
pink uh come around and I’ve rode that horse probably four times prior to
that day in years past and and rode her better than I ever had and I’ve been
88 89 points on that horse and I was 92 and I was like hey this is it’s this
is all I’ve seen this here we go walk in the locker room they’re like you got
Virgil I’m like I know you guys are so in trouble like good luck so you you
said you’ve seen this but is there something behind that I I know I just feel
like uh to be able to be at the very best you have to dream sleep and eat
bear back riding or whatever your discipline is and I forgot that for a few
years I I would lay my head down my dad’s gone or there’s so much weight on
my own shoulders stupid stuff and I wasn’t laying my head down and dreaming
of being the absolute best I wasn’t dreaming about the worst bucking horses
that nobody else can ride I wasn’t having those dreams like in the in years
past when I had won my world titles MH um and so I remember like the gry horse
I don’t know why it’s a gry horse White Buffalo whatever it be the the
philosophies or whatever that is behind that but I remember Virgil and uh in
my dreams clear as day and waking up just sweating like okay like here we go
this is my moment and here I mean I’ve dreamed of being in the shoot with him
and he’s so big he kind of looks sideways and he’ll put his head over the
rail over the Bucking gate if he’s having a grumpy day and if he has a grumpy
day he does this this trip what we call a buck out like for the 8 seconds he
does this pattern but if he’s if he has his head down and his ears are
twitching in the shoot he’s going to have his Hopper day and and it’s not a
hopper day but he comes around and he and he’s a little more friendly to ride
you can kind of show off a little more it’s not near near a fist fight you
know it’s more of a dance and he uh I I drew him that day and I was wound up
and I them horses feel the energy for sure especially from the rider and I
remember climbing over on him and it’s not climbing over and get down in on
him it’s climbing up and getting on him and like just massive and when you
put your legs around him they just feel like you’re spread eagle like you
climb up on him and and I remember just I couldn’t get out of the shoot fast
enough there wasn’t like okay this feels good okay okay remember keep your
shoulders back strong Mark out none of that it was like oh Tom you ready like
Tom get the gate open I’m ready all right and I’m nodding and like you know
went out did really well and he had his mean trip um and I hadn’t been riding
to the top of my ability at that time and that was like I won I won a half
million dollars that day um Ro rode the hardest horse to ride perfect um the
things that I felt spiritually that day leading up the presence of my dad it
felt like on the back of the shoots my family there my my little boy like
everything was such a perfect day in in a Champions World I guess you could
say you’ve dreamed it you’ve done it you accomplished it your family
everything you know and it was like okay here’s the lights again I’m going
home I’m in a train like I’ve never trained uh got some money in the account
you know let’s go get a steak babe so it was a fun period of life and and
Virgil I I won the American him a few years ago so it would be you know four
years from the the first time I won the American and uh won 100,000 I didn’t
qualify for the million that year but just a very unique athlete of a of an
animal yeah it’s feels like you got realigned like you went through a tough
patch and you got realigned did did you just recognize that where there some
circumstances in your life that you thought wait when I’m putting my head
down on the pillow at night this is where I this is how I need to be this is
what I need to be thinking about exactly it was more you know you’re not done
in the sport yet you’ve got a lot of gas left in the tank there’s things that
you you know it was like a God sent like hey you know that there’s way more
work for you here in the rodeo Arena than anything else there was I started
company called Power Pro at the time and I I was dreaming about that a lot
and not riding uh and so it was like dude business is always going to be
there bearback riding is you’ve got a limited time you need to make your mark
this is your second opportunity pretty much yeah and and it was it really was
and winning the money and and financially stressed that was a weird uh
transition for me just cuz at a very young age from you know 13 years of age
I started getting it figured out and when I turned 16 I I was went to high
school rodeos my dad wouldn’t let me do that before and finally grew up to be
a man and I started making some pretty decent money at a very young age and
never going to have a poor day you know and then family and buying a new
property and uh unexpected fees and whatever you know everybody deals with it
life happened yeah so there was it was just a stupid uh distraction I let
dictate who I really was and and dictate my winnings it’s such a great lesson
it’s such a great lesson and the way you overcame it I think that’s a great
part of your story is the way that you overcome challenges in in your life if
you if you look in my office there’s a there’s a poster of Marcus aelius
who’s a was the last of the five Great Roman emperors and uh he he had a
saying that I think applies to you in terms of obstacles he said the
impediment to the action activates the action the obstacle to the way becomes
the way and it feels like obstacles in your life nobody wants to face it but
the obstacles have been critical in your life and your success is that
accurate do you feel that way no I mean there is obstacles but it it I don’t
feel like anything’s everever been in my way you know I don’t I don’t I feel
like there’s opportunities that are challenging yeah and it could be an
obstacle but uh no I don’t I don’t think uh but you know whatever whatever I
am up against I I do find joy and in figuring out the process to to become
good at that mhm or over come that whatever it be or or be uh more
influential in moments mhm you know and there’s there’s times where I
definitely don’t want to get up in front of a crowd and speak but there’s
been some conversations I’ve had in the past that I didn’t want to have that
hey man I suck at public speaking like I get Tongue Tied I get nervous I’d be
more comfortable going and getting on Virgil with with no rigging I just hang
on to his you know but but the things that I’ve read and the podcast that I listen
to and uh the things that I I’ve witnessed in life it public speaking is not
that bad everybody gets a little nervous well it’s funny that you mentioned
that because I think generally it’s well known that public speaking ranks at
the top or near the top of individual’s fears in life no kid yeah yeah that’s
true so you’re not out of you’re I mean you’re right in the realm with
everybody else public speaking is uncomfortable yeah but you know but I but I
enjoy it and especially when it’s done it’s it’s gratifying it’s like you
know what hopefully there was one person that listens to that that I changed
our life and and they feel like they’re more uh capable of of going at their
their obstacles whatever they’re up against hopefully you know there’s and I
and I you know having faith in yourself uh is something else too that my mom
and dad instilled us when we were young and so having faith in your in your
wisdom and the the things that I’ve lived in life um my my experiences
hopefully yeah I can tell them and you know people can resonate with them a
little bit but yeah learn a little bit more about themselves and and
hopefully influence them well you have such vast experience and I know that
you you said that you don’t feel like there’s obstacles or you don’t view
them as obstacles but you keep overcoming challenges and I think a lot of us
would view view that as you overcoming these obstacles in fact in in one
interview I think you said if there’s a challenging time in your life you can
look back on all of the things that you accomplished you you got on Virgil
you rode Virgil like these are things that the normal person doesn’t do and
you’ve already overcome those you can lean on those things to help manage
challenges as they come through your life what would you say I mean I’m never
going to sit on Virgil and I’m going to have challenges what are the things
that we can lean on to help manage those difficult times in our lives oh man
there’s so many things but uh I rely on my friendships and my family a lot uh
the saying still sharpen still um I use that all the time my brother hanging
out with him he he sharpens me he he keeps me on my toes he calls me out if I
say little dumb comments or if I’m being a wimp he’ll let me know if if I’m
being negative you know you wake up in the morning you got that much energy
in your tank and if you say something negative you’re getting 5 miles to the
gallon but if you’re if you’re giving compliments and and you’re being a
outstanding citizen you know that Tank’s going to stay full all day long my
my my people are not my people that’s not what I want to say but the my
friends and family that I that I associate with each and every day uh they
keep me on my toes and and we’re very honest with each other and