From Brazil to Böhme: The Power Couple’s Journey to Success with Fernanda Böhme & Michael Birkeland

welcome to the know your ship podcast presented by ehub I’m your
host Frank doce welcome man you two together on the know your ship podcast
this is a an enormous day for the know your ship podcast because this I mean
Superstar like chills yeah co-founder mhm of bom the one and only Fernanda
bom and I thank you so much for being here well thank you for having me and
uh you brought with you let me check my notes is is the case silent is the
cas silent no no it’s a it’s a hard K oh Michael burkland Burke yeah I do a
lot of service is it like a bur burin ban it’s it’s Norwegian but we just
crank it as you know what we we actually looked you up by the way this this
this is a power couple I mean I’m I’m joking on you right now but like the
stuff the movies the films and the and the other stuff that you do yeah is
has been like really meaningful for people like me and developing my own wow
thank you sense of humor and lifestyle so thank you yeah you’re welcome this
th this is such I think it’s such a great story uh because two really
different backgrounds rounds right like let’s let’s talk about Fernando let’s
talk about yours a little bit by the way just so you know this is a podcast
we’re going to talk about bom and the business and how you’ve been so successful
and built this up with your with your sister and lots of other good partners
but we really like to kind of dig into the background backstory and figure
out what motivated people to get to this position where they are today and
I’m specifically interested in your relationship ship and how that is
additive or takes away from your business anyways you grew up in Brazil
That’s right until how old so we came to the US when I was eight years old
and we spoke no English so English is actually my second language wow do you
still speak Portuguese 100% fluent really it doesn’t go away no well we spoke
it at home all growing up so and okay and so when you say the family who who
was involved who came over so it was me my other two siblings and my parents
gotta and we actually moved to Provo Utah what was the why yeah that look P
down why why did you move to Provo well that’s where BYU was and my dad
wanted to get a third degree and it’s a big deal to get a degree from America
if you’re an immigrant so that’s where we went so your dad’s very well
educated believes in educ already in Brazil and then we move and it it was
very difficult being an immigrant in this country you don’t know the language
you’re just trying to figure it out well I I was making a terrible assumption
then because your dad who who I’m assuming then passed on this love of
Education to his children would that be accurate uh yeah uh yeah did you pick
up I passed it on but did no but I started the business really early so I
didn’t really get to further my school okay okay well let me let me go back I
was making the assumption that you came over with your family your dad’s
really well educated you just stepped into life in the United States and it
was like hit the ground running is that not the case oh my gosh this a joke
no quite the opposite say that pretty regularly yeah yeah it was sink or swim
yes well tell me Give me the give me the okay I’ll pain reader digest yeah
readers digest I’ll just paint a quick picture it was my dad’s going to
school full-time we get out of school I mean we’re in elementary school we
get out of school around uh you know 3:30 and then you know my parents would
go clean buildings at minimum wage until midnight and we would go help them
for free we would work for free till midnight every day after school for many
many many many years and so if you think of a family of five we lived below
the poverty line way below wow and that was life like I didn’t feel sorry for
myself or anything but it it was reality and it was um one of those things
that it really teaches you how to be creative when you don’t have the cash
you have to be creative and today as a business owner it’s all about being
creative yeah well creative absolutely but it also sounds like you learned
the value of putting in work of hard work and effort like these are themes
that I think are meaningful and we’ll we’ll continue to talk about that as we
as we move along and speaking of hard work and effort and determination
that’s right I’m looking at this guy like how did you marry this guy I mean
maybe maybe we should I didn’t say that could you see that I was thinking
that no like maybe we should say more like silver platter would that be more
approp no appropriate for this guy I mean he immigrated from Norway right
well and by way of my grandparents yes no I can’t I’m from Tennessee
chattanoga Tennessee and uh and then I moved here specifically uh for film um
back in the late 90s but I grew up on the church’s welfare Farm I ran our
family did the cattle ranch is that right yeah so is this is this kind of a
family background sort of thing like being an Entertainer and then you just
naturally grab my dad mom are intellects they are you been to Berkeley
Michael’s the black sheep of the family is that how black sheep how many in
his family like uh there’s seven kids seven kids we recently had a guest on
this podcast that also is from a family of seven kids really he he had six
sisters one male six sisters wow it’s we have have one sister and it’s boys
oh jeez so how was that how was that growing up yeah it was great I mean it’s
I’m number five so me I loved I loved having a lot of big brothers and it was
great like when I went on a mission for my church I was the fifth so my dad’s
like well high five like no need to hug done this many many times get out get
moving get to step no I’m just getting not that bad but so I I I don’t know
how to if I can compare this appropriately but with Fernandez experience and
coming to the US and that struggle and difficulty I mean where did you serve
your mission by the way don’t tell me you went back to Tennessee no no no
Sacramento Sacramento cnia okay so kind of like going to a foreign country
yeah a little bit oh yeah what it was a bit tell me some of the lessons what
what did you learn on I mean I don’t think you can equal what Fernandez’s
gone through like that is a no no no it’s totally different I me we we both
grew up poor but the uh it’s it’s completely different we spoke English uh my
grandparents went through the language uh and cultural issues not my not my
parents or us they didn’t pass that down to you no but I did grw up in
Tennessee where everyone they love the Mormon Church anyway they’re all anti
so I mean it was a it was a culture shot going to a place where there was way
more Mormons in general so it’s great but uh what did I learn to love people
love everything around me I I appreciated everything about everything yeah oh
yeah and then you got into film which is kind of an interesting not none of
your family did that you just decided that was your that was your path yeah I
I always wanted to I we would be working on the farm and my dad we didn’t go
to movies a lot if we rent into something that was later on when that came
out if John Wayne or something Western but we go to a movie like of his Jaws
Rocky the big ones the classics yeah and I thought I I got to know I got to
know how they do it I want to know and it seemed impossible where I was and
so after serving a mission I like I’m going to go figure it out I don’t know
how I’m just going to figure it out and that’s so I did how often I mean it
feels like that so so it feels like there’s some similarity in your stories
and and how often I mean generally when you think about people who are
successful that seems like a recurring theme like I didn’t know exactly what
I was going to do I knew I wanted to do something and then I just had to go
and figure it out would that is that kind of an accurate yes appraisal of
what you and and your sister oh yes did yes I mean in the beginning our very
first store it it was one of those things that we didn’t have the cash for it
and it’s not like our dad was out golfing and making connections by any
stretch of the imagination so all I had was a credit card so I took out a
credit card back in 2007 and that’s how I started buying inventory how old
are you at this point 23 okay wow and did you did you go to did you enroll in
college I did I did the fashion school at the solake community college I’m
their alumni and I mean I wanted to get the heck out of here I’m GNA move to
New York I’m GNA do Couture and I you know doing retail was not in my line of
sight but then that was the reality it’s just like you know what you’re your
parents aren’t going to pay for your school like that it wasn’t realistic I
had to do with what I had I had to be frugal and it’s like this is the
reality you’re going to go to solid Community College and you’re going to go
to the Fashion Institute yeah and you know what it’s an amazing program can I
say the teachers are Beyond qualified and the things I learned theun
fundamentals it’s the same anywhere you go around the world so it taught me a
lot well look at the product I mean obviously it’s unbelievable what what what
slick is doing and producing yeah over there do we are we G do we have a
Fernando bone building there on campus there’s a big there’s a photo of me a
bigal photo it’s huge isn’t it like well no there used to be a mural but yeah
no yeah there was a photo in there I can I can I picture the mural with you
looking like this unbelievable right and then you you know photo I’m in the
that’s our gardener I me I may or to him but it’s also our gardener I me he’s
really good at Landscaping what are you going to do miss m won’t take up the
trims so you guys aren’t married at this point right when you’re no no I met
him 3 months before I opened the first store oh well second store first store
first store 07 I met him in 07 I opened bom just okay so that’s awesome
because you were kind of getting to know Fernanda as this is occurring oh
yeah and of course No One Believes Me Oh yeah you’re going to do a fashion
light yeah good for you yeah right by the way I was looking at your fashion
line which is excellent I I think I skipped the men’s is there like a men
section that I miss and by men’s there’s no men’s no yeah there’s no men why
I SK pretty easily is that you know our first store yes it is we’ve talked
about it in our first store we actually used to have men’s this sounds
terrible you can totally edit this out we we probably will don’t worry um
don’t no no you maybe maybe you should in the men’s section this like half of
it we had a theft problem on the men’s because the women were stealing all
the men stuff it was so appealing think the women steal clothing it’s men
that steal clothing the most they both steal clothing but we don’t need talk
about P I’m just saying that it was like a hard business because it was like
a big issue half of their inventory is going out the door wow and back then
was name brand so it was kind of expensive inventory yeah yeah right right so
okay uh not to get off track but I have a few ideas for the men’s line so
maybe we can schedule some time maybe on the golf course I mean you mentioned
that earlier like let’s go out golfing yeah I’m not a great golfer I just
show up for the drinks and I like the golf cart ride that’s perfect I’m
alcoholic drinks yes absolutely I’m I’m with you are you a golfer well I can
swing in the club no my whole family’s like great golfing I enjoy it but I am
not a good golfer you are the black sheep let me we just talk about that what
happened to all your all the brothers and your sister um um we we actually we
live all over the place I have one brother lives here in Utah and the rest
we’re all in different states um and they they all chose the path of
righteousness to make money uh by I do this job and then I make money every
week and then every month and I have 401k a more traditional yeah I went way
the other way I said 401K hey I didn’t say that the um no I never said that I
sang it and so anyway but the uh I I I knew I was let me tell what’s weird I
got into standup comedy from the very beginning on accident I was never never
in a million years even thought of even doing it I’d watched the comedians on
uh Carson with my dad with my brothers and then I got talked to him to one
night on an open mic I’ve done it for over 30 years so I’ve I’ve done
probably more standup than anything and I’ve been all over the place stand up
and Jay Leno you don’t know I mean you don’t know what you don’t know you
know but anyway so I that’s kind of how I I went a complet different
direction I just I went to the Arts 100% yeah and you know why we were talking
about this earlier you’re more of a right brain oh yeah yeah that’s if I use
my left brain see what happens I don’t know just like I I noticed that
earlier too I didn’t want to say anything but since you mentioned it you have
you started talking math soon I’ll be like hey you got any more of that dry
cake over there um PS I brought got some pastry for us all to enjoy past one
indiv you do yes let talk about Brazilian we have a sweet tooth like nobody’s
business oh man I feel like I’m Brazilian at heart I’m Italian but I think
I’m also Brazilian because I have a sweet tooth like crazy so I I thought
maybe that we could connect over some pastry one person really connected over
the pastry I’m not sure how much is left we’ll have to check after the let me
see who did that let me talk to the guy in the I mean sound Department
probably handed it to me the whole thing whatever let me ask you a question
okay I’m going to ask you a question right since you have have been around
since the since the beginning and you know the the backstory I want you to
tell me some of the traits some of the things that you see in Fernanda that
make her so successful okay talk show right now this is uh I’m so glad it’s
not like Springer well let me bring out my girlfriend and chair we’re
breaking chairs I’ll tell you um number one I I don’t know a man that an outw
worker and I mean physical cannot outwork the hours the everything they she
and her sister but they would go she would go buy clothing she’ go work the
store she had another job and then in some of the stories she’s like hey we
got to build something in the store we 4 in the morning we’re working to a
store and she they’d open the store she’d have her she was a constant I I
know there are times that she slept probably two hours a night and then I
don’t know how many times just awake for three days it’s unreal because they
built all their first stores on their own no contractor so they were do you
were swinging a hammer painting walls I all my tools I have everything I knew
it I knew it’s not just P you should see my garage like I’m a tool junkie
Home Depot is my second home yeah yeah yeah same you and me okay we even made
out at Home Depot once I’ll get into that later but that’s how that’s how
often we’re they were like this is kind of romantic we’re here like every
other day I me listen I understand you get into that Appliance section things
start oh yeah oh yeah go crazy yeah yeah well back back to yeah so anyway uh
the and what’s funny is and at the time at the beginning this is interesting
stilettos were in women were wearing stilettos and you’ve never worn a
stiletto until you’ve s to Brazilian wear a stiletto so here’s a stiletto in
Utah here’s a stiletto in Brazil so you’re on your tippy toes they would go
up and down these stairs all day all night in Hills they look hot and you
could see a lot of people would look especially employees that go how do
these two pretty girls how are they there’s got to be something else I can do
this no they can’t you couldn’t do it no in fact most men most men can’t keep
up with her and what’s funny the other is they negotiating so Fernando when
she negotiates especially with contractors she knows the plan inside and out
she knows every detail down to how many screws you’re going to put in that
one wall right there on that line and if you don’t follow it she’s on you and
contractors I think at first oh cute girl I’m going to then fire comes out
like okay free to the wall don’t make her mad um the uh and that’s that’s a
good quality so there’s a i to call negoti GL qualified that and so that’s a
good quality because the the way you were framing it it seemed like that
could have gone the wrong way but I yeah we’re going to put that in the good
quality oh yeah right the every detail of everything but that doesn’t makes
sense because you said that you’re right brain like you’re that’s the
creative right but but the attention to detail and the analytical side of
putting together a store and all of the that seems much more left bre okay so
here’s my secret so you know when you study up on listen everybody listen
this is a secret this is the secret so you know when you study up on um add
they talk about they have superpowers that they can hyperfocus okay that’s
your superpower that’s my hyperfocus do you and so are you saying that you if
I’m passionate about it I’m like all over it I’m like up somebody’s nose okay
and is that like if that’s my literally if that’s my focus and that’s what
I’m passionate about like I’m obsessed like if the light is shining down and
it’s the wrong lumans or it’s the wrong Kev wrong Kelvin or it’s the wrong
beam angle uhhuh done the day is done yeah I think so I’m obsessed over
things that regular people are not obsessed about you know you know how
people like famous people like you and Michael Jordan yep I just put you in
the same sentence so Michael Jordan has a famous quote like I made he made
practice harder than any he made practice hard because then the game was easy
that’s his one of his famous quot so when practice time for him like that was
it that’s and and the thing that you just said I think that we could make
that into a quote like if you want to get something done then you get up
somebody’s nose yeah that’s how you do it you have to get up and again since
I was a child I’ve noticed that I was passionate about things that people my
age didn’t care about like if I’d walk into like a room and there’s a
projector playing and but the lights were on I’m the first one to get up hey
you where’s the light switch turn on the turn off the lights we can’t see the
projector we can’t see like I’m obsessed with my environment and making sure
and controlling it other people could care less they’re like we’re enjoy but
not me like inside I’m fuming as to why this was missed so anything Visual
and environmental like I’m very insightful yeah is that is that uh is that
something you developed over time is that something you were born with is
that something you got from your parent okay is your sister the same way your
part left brain 100% left brain and that’s how we come together she’s left
brain I’m right brain right interesting do you see this as well kind of this
hyperfocus and is it just in the business world like this hyper Focus or in
fact uh outside my horoscope says workaholic yeah that that is true she’s a
workhog but there when she was younger she said I’m going to learn to play
the violin she found a way to buy her own violin when she was I think 12 and
played it the in the Utah Symphony what Utah youth Symphony Utah youth
Symphony and oh University of Utah Symphony as well and then then picked up
the saxophone all the way and just started and went into a jazz band and uh
she’s Uber talented so when she puts a hyper focus on something it’s you
can’t stop her wow so you know how Okay I I can’t speak for every everybody
but everybody has a different gift everybody has a different Talent you take
somebody that’s like really good with numbers they can split a spreadsheet
and see it in their minds and it’s like how do they do that I don’t know
that’s their gifted so me I can take any environment or project and see all
the layers all together all the details so I can walk into like I can see a
flat piece of land and walk into the building touch feel taste smell and know
all the layers all at once together all the senses you know did you ever see
the the movie of beautiful mind Russ you know what you know what I’m you know
what I’m imagining right now no yeah tell me you just want so badly that when
you open the garage please everyone please please tell me that there’s and
there was all empty paper you’re like come on man but anyway he was so he was
so hyper intelligent mhm and uh but when he walked him he could see it was
like a spider we he could to see everything all at once um which is I’m that
way in film in in the industry and like in comedy I when I walk into room I
can kind of feel everybody but in in where it really matters in life she can
read the person in that space as well which is not very common so she’s like
walk into the blank room and in your in your mind it’s like it’s it’s all
built yeah and we walk into a blank room it’s like wa is that a blue wall
that’s weird and then we go get some Pacers we should paint that let’s go
let’s go get some P that’s what I would do yeah well I think you’re right
everybody has has gifts different gifts and and the fact that you kind of
found yours early on is super super meaningful I think you did maybe you did
the same thing like and that may have been difficult to go outside of the
family Trends and say look this is what I’m good at I’m going to go do this
so this is what I want to ask you both about how important is it in life and
in business to find what you really enjoy and what you’re good at and then go
run with that because I talk to a lot of people who are not happy and who
don’t ever latch on to that so I there’s something that I’m so obsessed with
it’s called find your frequency so that’s my motto so in finding your
frequency U like with Michael going away from his family’s like uber
traditional their accountants or you know they’re they’re really inside the
box I hope if they’re watching it I’m sorry I don’t mean it in a bad way
they’re just very traditional bad way and um and finding your frequency it’s
it’s realizing and using your talents and your gifts to better your society
and knowing that what you can bring to the table nobody else can bring to the
table so okay so how do you dissect that okay I could be good at a lot of
things okay you don’t know this I used to do credit repair in my past life
okay great but would it be the best use of my gifts and talents to be sitting
behind a desk and doing credit repair probably not right MH so the thing is
is that when you find that frequency and you use those gifts in your ability
that are god-given that no matter what you do you know you can’t buy it it’s
organic it’s already in your DNA when you use that it’s powerful it’s magical
yeah you’re Unstoppable nobody is going to outwork you nobody’s going to
outdo you I mean could you imagine uh John Williams that you know he he one
of the greatest composers of our time he did Jurassic Park Star Wars and the
list goes on right totally and so could you imagine him going you know what
I’m really good with numbers and I’m a really good accountant and I could do
a really good living being accountant so I’m going to do that and imagine if
he ignored that gift and said you know what I if I can pay the bills um
composing music could you imagine the loss of our society yeah but look at
him now oh my you’re giving me goosebumps I am so motivated right now like I
want to take these headsets off this is not my calling just kidding I really
enjoy this no no it is I could you know what I could say I really like this
no no no no you’re a people person I feel it like you need to be surrounded
by people and you get energy from people definitely you do I could I feel it
absolutely thank you you would you agree with that like finding your
frequency do you what are your thoughts oh yeah it fact it’s ironic because
we we both love the frequency side I’ve a film for groups that I can get on
the research side of that so it’s the same thing with me where I hear people
always all the time going oh D I’m just going to manifest okay but what
happens if you manifest what you’re supposed to manifest what happens if you
find out what God has actually given you the skill the trait that passion
inside of you because there’s a lot of smart people super super intelligent
people that could go good TI for things and I have so many friends they’re my
age they have three houses off the Cabo and you rarely see them smile they
don’t visit because they’re so busy they don’t enjoy their life it’s not that
they it’s not a bad thing they’re taking care of their family Etc but when
you can figure out how to do it within that frequency what you actually love
it’s obvious that you’re the three people right now that obviously love
exactly what they do there isn’t one of us here that doesn’t love our life
and I know way too many successful people that not only don’t let I think
they hate their life and then people that I you meet that live in the worst
part of town you you could never catch a frown on their face everything is
bright everything is good isn’t that interesting yeah the mindset and have
you ever have you ever read the uh the book by Victor Frankle who who was a
uh um he was in a concentration camp man search for meaning is the name of
book amazing and would you think that you could find any Joy or happiness
being in a a victim in a concentration camp well it’s the whole story is
about how he found meaning and happiness in his life being in this
circumstance so and you know we we don’t we don’t have to live in that but
the the message is the same finding your frequency finding your happiness I
have a I have a great example have you ever seen the real life movie Mulan
not the animation the redo Mulan PS Disney is one of my favorites of all time
no yeah absolutely I love it the real action movie okay yes so there’s a part
in there that if everybody knows the story Mulan goes um to War as a man okay
and um she’s been told her whole life to suppress her Chi because has a very
she has a very powerful Chi and for her it was she could fight in in an
artistic way like nobody else and she stole her whole life you need to
suppress that her dad’s like you’re a lady like you’re not supposed to be
fighting like no no no so anyways she runs away goes into war as a man and
there’s a part in the movie that’s very powerful if you catch it and she um
is alone and the witch approaches her so it’s just nobody else in the scene
if you know what I’m talking about it’s just the Witch and Mulan and the
witch says who are you and she tells I’m want who I am you know I work for
the emperor I’m a soldier in the emperor she goes the which says you’re a li
who are you asks her again and she introduces herself as a man again and the
the witch says you your liar your lies poisons your Chi yes and that’s the
point that Mulan knows what she has to do MH she immediately realizes that if
she’s not herself a 100% she can’t attain the highest version of herself MH
so she takes the pen out of her hair the hair comes down she takes away the
Man’s armor she gets on the horse she goes back to battle as a woman W am I
getting emotional it’s the most beautiful part in the movie she goes back as
a woman and she gets cast out ends up saving the the emperor and the entire
Village and the entire um country country but the the point with that story
is wow there’s just people all over that are you know putting away putting
aside their pride or putting aside whatever they have to attain the highest
versions of themselves and it’s difficult sometimes because we have we have
parents going hey I paid for your school you need to be an engineer or you
know what um my my family’s doing this or my my friends are doing this so
they have these expectations that they put on themselves and they forget to
once they peel the layers it’s like oh oh no what do I have to give what is
it what is the highest real realist version of yourself and it’s the hardest
question is to for yourself is to trust yourself and everybody’s like I don’t
trust that guy I don’t trust that person what about trusting yourself right
it’s self trust and being 100% honest with yourself and then all of a sudden
the highest version of yourself comes out well it’s powerful and it’s
meaningful and how many people like you said get stuck because of fear
because of what society says you need to get a job and you need to have a
401k and that’s the only way you’re going to be able to take care of your
family and so how many people and I bet all of us in this room could say at
some point in our lives we’ve backed away from that like we’ve succumbed to
the fear and so it’s hard it can be very difficult to overcome that in your
life I mean is that does that resonate with you as well oh yeah Cu uh I’m
it’s funny I used to think when I was younger I was afraid what if it didn’t
work what what if I couldn’t do it I mean I I to be honest I really wanted to
do western movies because I grew up watching Western I thought that’s all the
movies were obviously that’s ridiculous but but then it got the point like I
was more afraid if I didn’t and I I I when you know it’s hard because people
are so you you walk this L like you don’t want to sound like you’re a proud
person like oh man I’m awesome at this you’re like people love that when
you’re eating food I’m an awesome Chef good please don’t don’t be a mediocre
cuz you’re I don’t want to get sick but when you have a talent that’s in
front of a person it’s weird when you know the gift and talent you have and
once you’ve realized it there’s no walking away it’s impossible uh so it and
then you have to figure how do you live your life with these gifts and these
talents and some of these talents are used whatever and you still have a day
job or sometimes they’re your full-time life or whatever um I mean she she’ll
be one to tell you I’m I love having having stuff on this Earth I love money
I love whatever but it’s not my motivating force how I I can affect uh myself
or someone else’s life in a particular space that matters more to me than
anything um and if you can figure how to make it work because I you go to
school and get your doctor to become a psychiatrist but if you can’t talk to
people and they don’t like you well that’s a lot of education and a lot of
money spent to do Dan’s grocery store yeah stocking at night or credit repair
although she was making hundreds of dollars a year so we’re not want to brag
but we had a Sentra and so I am no I’m just kidding it was a Mazda but did
you oh yeah yeah I had a Mazda once who want it’s all it takes that’s all it
takes but listen I can’t believe we’re running so out of time this is so
amazing I don’t know but listen this is my favorite segment of the show of
the podcast this is called three random questions okay are you ready so just
what first for each of us or together I don’t care okay okay how how do you
want to manage this well you come up with a question I might just hand it
over she might or she might shush me who’s a better actor who’s a better
actor oh oh this is great I didn’t I wasn’t even going there but let’s let’s
do this who’s a better actor oh thank you he he wins this round he he won the
better actor who’s who’s funnier no just think if we’re speaking in general
terms maybe but anytime we get together someone that people only know from
the business world you get on a personal like on a double dat or like man
your wife’s hilarious she’s not that funny at work you’re right she’s not
because she’s not telling jokes at work she’s making sure Foreigner people
have a job funny at work but she like super like she doesn’t even smile her
she just she’s super focused but when you go out like she’s really funny I’m
like I know she’s really funny I think I see I think I’ve sensed that too
like sneaky sense of humor thank you okay okay you’re yeah yeah okay you’re
you’re feeling it because this is funny one time we dressed up as a redneck
couple and I painted my two black we have pictures we do somewhere I’ll find
it and people are like I can’t believe Fernandez would do such a thing and
I’m like dude people don’t know me right here here’s my sense of humor I’m
I’m either like beaten written up on forbes.com which which we were yes but
I’m like hey Michael wouldn’t it be super funny if I just stopped whatever
I’m doing and I’d go go to Walmart and just get a job right just show up at
the register show up at the greting people and like totally do it maybe
working in the women’s apparel section just helping people out you know
whatever I’m just like Michael Jackson Collection