The Next Era of Fulfillment: Inside Amit Kumar’s Vision at Logiwa

You have to kind of go back and ask the question why you know
why are we doing it what is the problem that we’re trying to solve what you
know what’s theoutcome that we’re trying to drive like if you get down to
basics almost all problems are very easy and very solvable right it
becomesmuch more easy to tackle then welcome to the know your ship
podcastpresented by e-hub I’m your host Frank DolceI want to make sure that I
get this correct because I don’t I don’t want to mispronounce your name but
If you’reintroducing yourself to somebody, how do you introduce yourself?
It’s so funny. Um, I don’t even knowanymore. So, it’s just the same as
because since I moved to the states, youknow, people would call me Amit.
Amit, right? A little emphasis on a, it’s a and less emphasis on the T.So,
that somehow became very uh normal for me. And then when people ask me, then
I, youknow, there was a time in my life where I had to stop and think is is
it Ahmed? So it’s really the the the right way todo is Amit. It’s a very
small emphasis on the A itself and it’s almost like a half of aT like a not
not D t a Amit. Yeah, there you go. Very close.But I’m I’m used to it. I’ll
answer to most. So So you get a lot of Amit.Amit. And then the way I think a
lot of what happens is it kind of the morecommon name that people uh
associate with when I say Amit is Ahmed like so that’s that’s thetypical like
you know if I ask if I say it once most people will come back and it’s like a
h d it’s like extended ahoh yeah that’s how that’s what they’re thinking of
typically. Yeah that’s interesting. Well as I was doing some research on
youis this a common name? It’s a very common name. Okay. Very It’s like John
Smith. It’slike No, I mean, so you’re John Smith. I’m the John Smith of
India. That’sright. Yeah. Kumar Kumar is one of the most common last names
and Amit isprobably one of the most common first names. So it it is really
really common. Iremember like you know one of my stints during my career was
at IBM. IBM is a massive company,massive half a million people, right? So you
know you cannot just by my name youcannot figure out which Amit Kumar you’re
looking for within IBM within IBM in IBM. So it’s that common imagine thatum
wow yeah it’s it’s a very common well I’m not going to lie when I was doing
my research yeah you I can’t imagine you found mewithout being in Liva or
something else. I had to include Legiva but I didn’t the first time. Yeah,
there’s no way offinding me. Yeah. And I was optimistic because you are
alsoone of the most popular recording artists. That’s right. In India. Yeah.
And so I I played a few clips and Ithought, wait a second, is he is this also
it’s not.That’s one skill I don’t have. Amit Kumar. There you go. Okay. With
Lega or Lajia.There you go. However you’d like to say it. Well, thank you for
coming in. We sure appreciate it. I know you had to change your travel
schedule around for us toaccommodate, so we really appreciate that. Thank you
for having me. Yeah, we we are really at E-Hub, we’reoptimistic and excited
about our partnership. We’ve worked with Lega for a long time and we just
think there’ssky’s the limit and and so I’m really interested to hear your
perspective.You’re a fairly new employee. I am at Lega and hired as uh I I
want to saythe director of product but that might not be correct. Vice
president of product. How did you what is your title?I lead product. Let’s
just call it that. Okay. Yeah. All right. Titles are not that important.
Before we get into Okay. Before we getinto your background, which I think is
fascinating, where you grew up and how you ended up here in the States, can
yougive us kind of just the 30,000 foot of your role and your goals in as as
thelead of product with Lija? Yeah. So, uh, like you mentioned, you know, I’ve
been at Liva about 8 n monthsnow. Um, my mandate is essentially to own
product. So, I own all of product atLjiva. Mhm. Uh we have multiple
platforms, you know, different things we can talk about. Umthe focus is to
kind of lead into sort of the next iteration offulfillment management, right?
In the world where things are changing with AI, with digital technologies,
with how weperceive fulfillment, all of that stuff, right? So Ljiva has a
very strong foundation uh from a technologyperspective. Mhm. My job is to
kind of build upon that foundation and take it to the next level. Got it.
Okay.Did you did you think growing up that this would be you would this would
beyour role in life leading product? Tell let’s go back to your background.
You grew up grew up in India. Grew up uhtraveling around India with your
family. Your dad was a civil civil engineer. Civil engineer. And so the
family movedaround quite a bit. I bet that those experiences are very
interesting for you. I I hated it growing up.You did? Yeah. As you can
imagine, right? You’re a young kid. Every two years, you know, you have to
kind of leave your friends. Yeah. Yeah. So, atthat time, in that moment,
living that life was not fun. But when I look back at it, you know, it’s
probably um one ofthe most foundational experiences of my life, right? you
know um um the the youknow the ability to see different places the ability to
experience different even in India India is a very diverse cultureuh very big
country uh one place you know a place in the north is very different from a
place in the south uhcompletely different languages completely different food
completely different ways of living lifeuh so in that moment while I didn’t
appreciate it now when I look back at it those experiences kind of shaped who
Iam um some of the most foundational experiences of my life. Yeah. I’m gladto
have done that now. Not necessarily enjoyable while you were in the middle of
it.That’s right. Yeah. As a as a kid, you know, you you you focus more on,
you know, your friends and you know, like,you know, you have to leave them
and move on and things like that. Those those things kind of are much more on
your mind.Having to go to a new place and start, you know, from scratch is
not something that you look forward to.So, not in the moment, no, it wasn’t
fun. I can’t imagine, you know, I think about that, you know, with my kids
andlike, okay, you know, maybe maybe we should shift somewhere or move, you
know, move to a different country ormove to a different place within the
United States. And then the reaction that I get from them is so visceral.Then
I like, yeah, you know, I didn’t like it either at that time. So, I
understand that. I know. But it but it the way youdescribe it now, it seems
like it was so meaningful. like would you encourage youknow maybe somebody is
saying I could stay here and I could stay in my job and I could or I have
this opportunity tomove across the country and experience something new. Is
that something you would encourage in?Absolutely. Absolutely. Right. You
know, I think um as I look back at it, you know, it shaped um you know, like
I saidearlier, it shaped who I am in in many ways. U you know, um with my
kids, Ialways say the same thing, you know, try to have as many different experiencesyou
can have. And the only way to have different experiences is to allow roomto
experience them, to move out of your comfort zone, right? It doesn’t feel
good in the moment but you know you willenjoy it. You’ll look back at it with
fond memories and you’ll look back at it and it will shape who you are and
whatyou want to do in life for sure like you know in many ways you know I
wish I had done more like so I did a lot oftraveling in India growing up not
by my own choice certainly but uh that was a formative experience but then I
you knowI talked to some of my friends and colleagues and stuff who have had
similar experiences but then in different countriesum the the like you know
one of my friends recently moved to Singapore and now they’re moving back to
a differentcountry you know and have young kids and and I’m always amazed by
how someone cando that but at the same time I am always always a little bit
jealous of you and I wish I had done that more in my lifeand in my career
also. So um I think some of the best experiences that you can have by putting
yourself in a brandnew position, brand new situation and you can learn from
that. Yeah, absolutely. And you know there’sjust there is something that you
you get comfortable it’s hard to move. Yeah.And ch change can be challenging.
can be challenging. There’s always more reasons not to do it than to do it.I
know. But, you know, I think you probably should just take the step, take the
leap every once in a while.Well, that’s that’s fascinating. Did you did you
think you followed in yourfather’s footsteps as an engineer or as you were
growing up, did did your familyor did your parents have some thoughts about
wh how you should uh proceed inyour education? Uh yes and no. So no in the
sense that nobody pushed me in aspecific direction. We were a very you know
what I would call a um true middle class family in India. Like not
uppermiddle class, not a lower middle class like true middle class family uh
in India. Uh we had um you know we had enough uhbut at the same time we knew
that you know the future dependent on us having an education having you know
therewasn’t like a business to fall back on. there wasn’t family money to
kind of fall back on. It was always about guys,you know, you have to find
your own way and and education is really important. India also being a
country of u not manymeans. So you have to you know you always have to be
focused and can you know kind of uh the pressure was thereto continue
studying and make sure that you make a living for yourself,make a life for
yourself. So in that sense uh they always pushed us but nobody pushed us uh
nobody pushed me uhto be an engineer or or a specific profession. Um but in
India uh especially at thetime I was growing up um you know when you talk to
anybody about you know like if you want to build a life there’s veryfew
professions that were available. There were not many choices. So you know
usually if you’re good at studies youeither went into engineering or you went
into medicine. Those were the two sort of broad choices. you don’t really
thinkabout anything else. There isn’t anything outside of those two standard
choices. So, so in that sense, you know, I kindof followed the path or
followed the herd, you know, in many ways. Um, medicine, you know, uh, was
not for me.It was a bit more intense than what I liked. Injuring, you know,
was a little bit easier for me. It came easier forme. Math was something that
I understood and enjoyed. My brain works like an engineer, I feellike. So, it
was there was just sort of the natural part. Sure. In many ways. Yeah. Yeah.
Interesting. Did you have otherhobbies or anything growing up? Uh I was
really into sports. Um so that’s you knowand uh I may have this wrong. Is
cricket the national sport? Cricket is a uh might as well be thenational
sport. You know it’s it’s definitely the most popular sport. Uh uh it’s it’s
all um uh a gift from theBritishers uh to us and and certainly a very popular
sport you know. Um socricket certainly you know every every Indian kid worth
it worth their salt has played cricket or would say cricket is asport they
love or have loved so I I still do um u and there were othersports I used to
play anything and everything we didn’t have you know I’m sure with you as well
growing up right Imean it wasn’t as if we had you know screens or you know
television wasn’t even like when I was growing up you knowearly in my you
know we didn’t even have a television in the house and eventually we got a
television butthen there were not that programming. It wasn’t 24/7 certainly
like it is today. You know, there were a few programssometimes late in the
evening or over the weekends and stuff. For the most part, you’re kind of
spending your own time being busy.So, come back from school, you know, have a
snack, you’re out of the house, out of the house and there’s aplayground and
then then it’s up to you to figure out with your friends what you’re going to
do. So, we used to play cricket. We used to playsoccer, football uh in India.
Uh we used to play uh field hockey of all things. Um uh so all these
differentkind you know we used to go biking you know just exploring things
things of that nature all the but yeah yeah so from from an early ageI was
into you know multiple sports soccer was a sport I used to play umcricket was
another sport uh um table tennis ping pong I was verygood at ping pong uh
early on um so I was I was I would say I was I had goodhand eye coordination
Mhm. Um I was fairly good with uh with a racket and a ball in many
differentways. So um so many multiple different sports. Um yeah, you know,
that’s one of thethings I looked back and said, hey, you know, I wish I had
stayed with it and you know, put some more effort into it, you know, and not
gone into uhengineering and stuff. It would have been a different life
potentially, but you know, who knows? Yeah, who knows? Could have been. H how
is the how is theIndian national soccer team? Do you follow the team at all?
uh they’re not very good in India. That’s one of thethings right we have you
know we have one of the largest populations in the world you would expect you
know we would have more talent but I think therethe resources uh the lack of
focus uh but also you know just the reality oflife in India right India is
still a you know I would say a evolving country right you know in some ways
third worldcountry right it’s not a uh advanced nation in some ways so you
know at theend of the day it becomes very difficult for people to dedicate
time and energywhen you have to in maybe I I’m a bit being a bit melodramatic
when I say this but it’slike it’s it’s a choice between all right I have to
go make sure that I can put food on the table and for that Irequire you know
education and and you know and something that will sustain meversus sports
right especially when you have so many people that you know a limited number
of people who can investtime energy resources money can then avail of those
things and kind of drive that. So overall, you know, uhthe Indian soccer team
is not very good. Um um making efforts to continue to bebetter, but they’re
not very good. I don’t know what our ranking is, you know, when you look at
FIFA rankings and stuff, butWell, yeah, I’m always disappointed by the US
soccer team. I always think US soccer should bebetter, but they never seem to
put it together. So maybe we feel the same about oursoccer team. I I think US
soccer is getting better. I mean, it takes time, right? It takestime. Um, you
know, when you have kids in other countries, you know, almost born with a
soccer world, that’sthat’s sort of where the difference comes in, right? Like
the skill, the talent, like you’re literally living day in and day out, you
know, 24/7 with asoccer. It’s hard to compete with that. And then there’s
structure and infrainfrastructure and a process in place. So, but US soccer
has has taken, you know, huge strides. I mean, even in thetime that I’ve been
here, right, you know, it’s it’s only going to get better. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
the women’s team hasseemed to seem to have figured it out. It’s just men’s
team isn’t isn’t quite quite thereyet. It’ll get there. I know. Yeah. I think
you and I are probably the same. I wonder if I would have been ded if I
dedicated more timeto athletics. But but it’s just that, you know, now you
see all of the superstars and you think, “Oh, maybe Ishould have been.
Maybe I should have That’s right. I could maybe I could have been that
butprobably not dream. That’s probably what it is. As you as you start getting
gray hair oryou’re losing hair, then you sit back and say, “Yeah, what
could have been what should have been?” Absolutely. Yes. That’s
absolutely true.I’m I’m sure, you know, as as good as I feel I was growing
up, uh, you know, I think I chose the path that suits me thebest. Absolutely.
Very good. Okay. So, you were educated in India. You went to toundergraduate
in in India. And what was your was it engineering?You studied engineering.
Chemical engineering. Yeah. Chemical engineering. What were you hoping to do
with chemical engineering?Uh I don’t know. I don’t know. Um you know,
honestly at that time it wasn’t uma wellthoughtout you know evolved sort of
plan right I wanted to do engineering and the way it works in India is
youknow you go through these competitive exams to go through. So I went to
you know um one of the best engineeringcolleges in India. Uh and then you go
through a competitive exam and then based on rankings you kind of have a
historical profile of what uhfits um for that type of ranking. It’s a uh not
knowing which specific type ofengineering you want to do. You know civil was
always something because my dad did that. Uh mechanical uh I wasn’t
veryinterested in computer sciences. That was the probably the hottest thing
at that time. Everybody wanted to do that. I wasn’t very interested in that.
Iwanted to do something more um physical I guess in some ways. Uh chemical
wasinteresting. Uh you know um so I decided to kind of explore that and
pursue that.Got it. Okay. And then uh after after you graduateddid you go to
work or did you start applying to I did not go to work. I just immediatelyor
right when even before I graduated I started looking for uh schools to come
to in the US uh to do my mastersat that time believe it or not I want to do
my PhD and I was kind of interested in polymer sciences um polymerengineering
and that’s sort of where my focus was Virginia Tech was a pretty good school
for uh its material sciencesprogram oh god and that that was that was the reason
I chose Virginia Tech and kind of you knowand again even when I joined them
My goal was to go on to do a PhD and sort of go in a different direction
intothat. Yeah. And while you were there, we were talking about this before
the podcast started. There was a, if you follow USAmerican football, there
was an athlete who changed the quarterback position.That’s right. Yeah.
Michael Wick. Yeah. Yeah. he, you know, um yeah, it’s uh uhfortunate for me,
you know, like I was I certainly never grew up on American football. Uh I
didn’t I didn’t care much for itbefore coming to Virginia Tech, but but the
uh the excitement, the hoopla, theenergy surrounding it was just amazing,
right? And then to be able to watch him live in action and see everybody
kindof, you know, going just nuts about, you know, what he could do and, you
know, what he was doing on the field and howhe kind of put in many ways, I
wouldn’t say he put Virginia Tech on the map, but he kind of made it a
prominent piece onthe map at that time, right? Um um certainly, you know,
Beamer and andthe program that he built had a lot to do with it as well. Uh
but so it was it was a fascinating time to be a you knowto be someone coming
in from India who knows nothing about football in a completely different
place and and tosee this type of energy excitement hype. Yeah. Yeah. A
guyating who could just dominatejust dominate the game. Yeah. He was he had a
very nice professional career but his collegiate career waswas something
else. was something else. Again, I’m not a football afficionado,so I don’t
know all the history of it, but I feel like he was one of the first ones to
do what he did with his motion and and kind of movement, you
know,athleticism, not just the typical sort of stay in the pocket, kind of
throw the ball quarterback, right?Well, I think a lot of people would say
that he’s the genesis of everything that’s happened with that
quarterbackposition today and how it’s exploded. So now you have a little bit
of both, but most guysat the quarterback position are fairly athletic as
well. So expect to do a little more more so.Yeah. More so. Yeah. I grew up in
the Dan Marino era where he couldn’t run outside of the pocket. He could drop
back.Yeah. And that was it. Even in this era, you had like a Manning, right?
You know, right? I mean,these guys are not runners. No. Yeah. And then you
have others who are so athletic. So that’s it’s fascinating.Yeah, it is.
Okay. Okay. So, you’re at Virginia Tech and at this point, are you starting
todetermine what you would like to do in a career or are you still
undecided?Uh, I’m still undecided. Like, you know, my original plan was to do
a PhD. So, that’s why I came to Virginia Tech.My goal was, you know, I’ll,
you know, do some fascinating research in polymer sciences. You know, we’ll
build something new.Um, I was part of a research project. I was doing
something for the military, which is fascinating. Uh but somewherealong the
way I I feel like I got disillusioned with the research process. Um so um you
know it felt like a lot ofum the the idea of research for me was in the
purity of it. You don’t know youknow uh what the research might lead you to.
You have a goal. You have a hypothesis. You’re trying to validate
orinvalidate it but uh but you don’t know for sure if you’re going to get
there or not. That to me was the fascinating part of thediscovery and
exploration and all that stuff. What I realized was a lot of this is it
doesn’t work quite that way. Um sothere’s more um yeah it doesn’t work quite that
way. So it was a little bit you know of adisillusionment for me. Um and then
uhthat’s sort of where you know I stepped back and kind of thought about okay
this is this doesn’t seem like what I expected. Is this what I want to do?
Mand and the answer was no you know I need to go in a different direction.
Yeah. Yeah. So you continued you got yourmasters you decided not to get a PhD
and at that point then you you jumped into acareer or into the working world
I guess. Yeah essentially just jumped into the working world. Um you know I
took a roleas a supply chain consultant uh of all things. Uh you know supply
chain was umyou know uh pretty hot at that time. M um you know um and and it
was always itwas always fascinating for me because it was you know it was
something I could relate to something is very tangibleunderstandable it was
about moving moving goods right you know uh you knowor having enough you know
how do you meet demand from customers when you’rein stores and things like
that something you know that you could kind of relate to without um um umin a
normal way, let’s let’s put it that way. Something that doesn’t require a lot
of brain cells for you to kind ofunderstand what the problem is. The problem,
but then as you dig into it, it’s a very complex problem.Um so that that
seemed fascinating to me and that’s sort of the world I joined and then uh
started my career as aconsultant. Got it. And have you stayed in supply chain
in transportation your wholecareer? No. No. So I would say you know um in my
career about half of my career is in andaround supply chain in different
capacities. Um it’s kind of broken into two halves. So the first part of my
career was as Istarted off as a supply chain consultant. So I spent a lot of
time there. Then now in this part of my career I’mback into supply chain over
the last you know several years five six years now. And in in between I kind
of exploredmany different industries. I’ve worked in martekch, fintech, u all
the techsyou can imagine. I’ve properly done that. Um and and you know, uh so
I’veI’ve always had a little bit of a um um I get I get the bug to
exploresomething new, something different. The problem gets boring for me. So
I always look for something new aftera few years. So that’s sort of what’s
been driving me, you know, in many ways. Um, that’s who I am. That’s that’s
on apersonal level and on a professional level. That’s that’s what defines my
career. Gotcha.In that time, in that time between your first stint with
supply chain and your stint now with supply chain, was theresomething in
there that you really enjoyed? And is there something in thattime period that
you think I would never do that again? Yeah, there’s always things as you
lookback at it and you’re like ah yeah you know I wish things were different.
Mhm. Uh yeah of course you know in betweenthose two sort of bookends if you
can call it that. I had the opportunity to build my own company uh you know
we witha few partners and we did that for four or five years and that was an
amazing experience. So loved every moment of it.Uh at the same time hated
every moment of it, right? You know, as a hat it hate is a wrong word, right?
I mean as afounder um uh you always have to worry about you know the paycheck
for youremployees and make sure that you know it’s one thing to worry about
your own paycheck but then to worry about you know other people are depending
on youand how the company is growing etc. that becomes a little challenging
right so um so that was something that alwaysweighed on me. Uh so when we
sold our company that was that was a you know uha great moment of you know uh
satisfaction but also a great moment of you know you could step back and sort
oftake a you know sigh of relief uh in many ways right so so it was one of
the most fascinatingexperiences of my life certainly having gone through that
um and in in many ways it was also a verytense moment of our life uh you know
gone going through that and kind of thinking about everybody I don’t thinkI’m
a natural um founder like many others. Yeah, that’s interesting. What kind of
companywas that? It was a software company, SAS company. Okay. And a you and
a few partnersstarted that and and built it. Okay. So, what are some of the
most valuable lessons you learned? I think it’sinteresting that you said
looking back you’re like, well, I’m not really that doesn’t that role doesn’t
fit me. But you were in that role for afew years. What what were some of the
most valuable experiences, lessons that you learned? Yeah.always be
open-minded, right? You know, and we pivoted multiple times in infiveish
years of doing that and then we successfully sold the company. So the end was
was um was positive and great.Uh but you know having an open mind having you
know being open to ideasright like you know you never when you start off
especially as a founder when you start off building something you never have
the right answer. I don’tbelieve anybody who has gone on with the original
idea has s you know I’m sure there are people who have but it’s fewand far
between. So you have to be open to kind of listening to the signals or
listening to the feedback. you stillhave to, you know, parse through it and
make your own decisions based off of that. Uh that’s, you know, that’s
justpart of life. You nobody’s going to come give you the answer, the magical
answer. You still have to figure out what thatright answer is for you and for
your situation and for your company and for your employees. But be open, you
know,uh if we hadn’t pivoted, we would not have been successful. So you know
and and uh credit to you know my partnersand you know who were willing to
listen you know all of us were willing to work at it work through it and
realize inplaces where things were not working and when we had to pivot and
go to something else that’s probably the biggest lesson. It’sprobably the
biggest lesson for me. Yeah. How many employees did you have? Uh when we sold
our company I would sayin the 20s30s something like that. So not a super
large company small company. Was that challenging? were did having uhmanaging
employees, managing people. Did you find that challenging or fulfilling
orYeah. No, not the not the managing people part. That wasn’t challenging.
That was actually very fulfilling. Youknow, that’s one of the things I love
doing is kind of, you know, working with uh uh people early in their careers
andwho are trying to grow and kind of coaching them and building them and
building teams. That’s a big part of what I love doing especially you know
uhin in more of my latter career roles where I’m kind of leading um you know
leading organizations leading teams etc.uh that wasn’t uh the challenging
part or that was actually exciting and fulfilling uh managing was not uh
Ithink the challenging part is all as a founder for me was more of making
sure that you know these are people who arereliant on us right their families
are reliant on us right and then are we making the right decisions right you
knowum um it’s you certainly you have to run a business it’s a at the end of
the dayit’s a it’s a company it’s a business you know you’re all doing it for
making money or growing the business etc. Soyou have to make some tough
decisions along the way but the balancing that with making fairdecisions
making sure that you’re not putting you know uh you’re not ignoring that
there are human beings involved andand lives involved and families involved
and that part is probably the toughest part.Yeah. What led you down to the
path of being getting acquired?Uh we we were in the market some of it was
timing um you know um some of it wasyou know we have been doing it for a
while and you know others were of similar mindset of some of the challenges
of being founder and kind ofgrowing a company but we were uh we had some
traction um and we werein the market uh looking to raise funds and drive sort
of the next phase of growth and one of our um uh one of ourstrategic partners
was interested in uh you know uh we’re talking to them about raising funds
and and then as ithappened they were very interested in you know acquiring us
and then it kind of those conversations kind of you knowone thing led to
another and that’s that’s sort of how it came about. Very interesting. Okay.
Have you sincethat experience have you been in that type of role again as as
like a founderor a president CEO? No. Okay. you just decided that moving move
you you’d move along. It isit uh so is that difficult to move from that role
where you’re kind of in chargeof everything to the role where you’re now an
employee uh and maybe you know inin a seuite or management level but
different role yes and no right I mean at the uh at theat the levels that I
have been at you know last several roles you know it’s it’s it’s always a
balancing act rightyou know Um all my peers we all come with a lot of
experience and and andwhat we believe knowledge and what we believe is the
right thing to do etc. right? You know, and in any any sort ofum executive
level uh rule, you know, group, uh we’re all right the time,right? So, so so
that’s just part of it. So, yes and no, right? I mean, you know,um uh there’s
always a balancing act. Um for me uh like I said you know uh beinga founder
being a CEO is is is a is aphenomenal you know job role responsibility etc.
Um I find much more satisfaction in kindof you know in the roles that I have
been I you know I I’m a product guy. I like building stuff. I like
buildingproducts. I like building teams. um you know um certainly you know I
I and I Ilike leading businesses uh at the same time but but I enjoy my
roles. I thinkthese these are the roles that give me the most satisfaction so
that’s sort of where I focus on. Yeah. Yeah. Has there been a favoriterole
leading up to the role you have today with Lega? That’s a that’s an
interesting question.Um every role has has its uh you know umpositives and
negatives. every role, you know, if I look back at it, um it’sI miss
something about every role. And there are some things that I, you know, I
wish I never done that or, you know,like but there is nothing that’s like,
okay, this is a favorite role or this is a role I hate except for it’s
almostalways the role that you’re in is always, you know, the the most
painful because you have to solve problems right now, right? The others you
can look backwistfully and say, “Yeah, you know, it was great or it
wasn’t.” But uh but yeah, no I I don’t think there is aevery role has
had something for me that I can look back and and uh you knowYeah. positive.
Yeah. In a positive manner. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So what what was compellingor
what is compelling about this opportunity with Legwa? Yeah. So there’s
several things on apersonal front for me. I am really fascinated by physical
problems thatrequire technology to solve uh for them. Right? So uh like I was
say sayingearlier supply chain or the physical movement of goods you know or
you know in our case specifically we are on thewarehouse floor right and and
and the act of kind of moving things from ashelf to a to a cart to a bin to packing
is sort of one critical piece of thepuzzle in you know as a consumer I sit
there you know we order tons of thingsfrom online stores from Amazon from
others etc right Mhm. And and the complexity that sits behindsomeone clicking
on the order and then 2 days later, 1 day late